Wife is being drug tested for work... how screwed is she?

1. I'm not the only one saying this 2. I'm not going to talk my personal experiences 3. I think drugs are horse shit in any capacity outside of approved medical use.

Full disclosure I won't see your response.
Quite frankly, you are preposterous and sorely need to do some reading up on drugs, legal or not.

Full disclosure, I will see your response but it probably won't be worth reading
 
Something being illegal doesn't mean it's bad though. Coke is no worse than alcohol but I doubt people would be as preachy if it was a thread about drinking.
Disregarding the 'coke is no worse than alcohol' bit which will lead to a very different discussion, the dangers of alcohol addiction and abuse are very serious. Saying so isn't preachy. Read below.

About as controversial as saying "people who don't want to be judged stay away from judgemental people" but hey that didn't stop you from being offended.
I'm not offended. I'm worried. I've seen what drug and alcohol abuse can do to a person and how easy it is to move from casual use to full-blown addiction. I've seen people destroy their lives and being reduced to husks of their former selves because they thought they could control substance abuse and they couldn't. Even if the chance of addiction is 1%, a few minutes or hours of feeling high isn't worth the risk of addiction because the price you'll then pay is way too high. If you think that's me being not cool or preachy or an asshole, fine, I'll accept it. Fuck drugs.
 

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Ah yes the old gotcha you drink pop. So original.
you call it "original" because it's used a lot because it's true. Caffeine is a shitty drug, with an actual chemical addiction, that has a laundry list of negative side effects and very, very few positive side effects. Literally the only reason you think it's ok is because society has conditioned you to think it is.

I've honestly maintained that there will eventually be a day when future generations are astonished we let kids drink caffeine the same way we are astonished that heroin was an OTC drug.

I'm not offended. I'm worried. I've seen what drug and alcohol abuse can do to a person and how easy it is to move from casual use to full-blown addiction. I've seen people destroy their lives and being reduced to husks of their former selves because they thought they could control substance abuse and they couldn't. Even if the chance of addiction is 1%, a few minutes or hours of feeling high isn't worth the risk of addiction because the price you'll then pay is way too high. If you think that's me being not cool or preachy or an asshole, fine, I'll accept it. Fuck drugs.
You clearly took offense, because this is now twice that you've gone back to some sort of claim that I'm questioning your "coolness" instead of the obvious reading of my comment.

You're not being preachy. You're being antagonistic and purposefully reading something in my reply that wasn't there, even after clarification.
 
I'm laughing at the 'not really into drugs, did a few lines of coke last month' hahaha.

Saying lapsed judgement like you bought a candy bar on your diet.
 
Quite frankly, you are preposterous and sorely need to do some reading up on drugs, legal or not.

Full disclosure, I will see your response but it probably won't be worth reading
If it wasn't clear previously saying its weird or preposterous isn't going to magically change my mind. Also not worth reading? About recreational drug use.
 
You clearly took offense, because this is now twice that you've gone back to some sort of claim that I'm questioning your "coolness" instead of the obvious reading of my comment.

You're not being preachy. You're being antagonistic and purposefully reading something in my reply that wasn't there, even after clarification.
Very well, you clarified that you meant something different, I misread and I apologize. The rest of my post stands. Fuck drugs and what they do to people. Fuck them.
 
You don't just call doing lines of coke a "lapse in judgement" unless there's been drug abuse problems previously, in my experience.

Hope your wife passes her test, OP. She shouldn't have an issue unless it's a hair follicle test (which are rare).
 
I'm laughing at the 'not really into drugs, did a few lines of coke last month' hahaha.

Saying lapsed judgement like you bought a candy bar on your diet.
That's really the confusing part. If they wanna do drugs, that's on them, nothing really against that, but those two sentences together don't make much sense haha
 

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Very well, you clarified that you meant something different, I misread and I apologize. The rest of my post stands. Fuck drugs and what they do to people. Fuck them.
To clarify, from pages ago:

And as someone who went through a drug phase, who truthfully understands the mindset of an addict, if you truthfully care about the well being of someone into drugs, your judgement is misplaced. That's not how you help people. Compassion and understanding helps, shame and judgement do not. If you hate drugs and want people to listen to your call for help, your first step needs to be to shelve the judgement. That helps nobody.

People do drugs for a variety of reasons. Including curiosity. Which is precisely why my mindset is of the "if it was really a one-off every now and then thing, no big deal." I've been literally addicted to things before. I can tell you that addiction doesn't happen over night. You don't get addicted to something by doing it once, even if you enjoyed doing it that one time. Addiction usually stems from deeper issues. I'd think OP would know his wife better than any poster here, and assuming he's being truthful (and why wouldn't he be?) it doesn't sound like his wife is in a bad place with high risk of spiraling out of control.
 
A lapse in judgement can be from drinking too. Drunk people are way more likely to do blow if its on a table in front of them than a sober person. They may regret it the next day but they will have a good night that night.
 
Ah yes the old gotcha you drink pop. So original.
Do you drink pop or consume food or drinks with caffeine in them? If so, do you consider it a manageable drug with minimal side effects?
“Wikipedia” said:
Caffeine can increase blood pressure and cause vasoconstriction.Coffee and caffeine can affect gastrointestinal motility and gastric acid secretion. Caffeine in low doses may cause weak bronchodilation for up to four hours in asthmatics.
According to a 2011 literature review, caffeine use is positively associated with anxiety and panic disorders.[70] At high doses, typically greater than 300 mg, caffeine can both cause and worsen anxiety
Caffeine dependence can involve withdrawal symptoms such as fatigue, headache, irritability, depressed mood, reduced contentedness, inability to concentrate, sleepiness or drowsiness, stomach pain, and joint pain.
I don’t mean it as a gotcha. What I’m trying to say and what you might want to consider is that these issues require a nuanced, reasoned look at the facts that let us take a step back from our immediate cultural context. Caffeine is a drug like any other but our culture accepts it as okay, and even readily hands it out to children.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, marijuana was legalized and will be sold by government-owned agencies where I live (Canada). At the same time, I have seen alcohol destroy (or kill) far more people than marijuana and I wish alcohol was more tightly regulated or more expensive to help mitigate its use.

You can have a can of Coke every now and then, you can have a joint once a year, you can drink once a month. Some people shouldn’t do any of those things. Some people can, or can tolerate more without suffering detrimental effects. Not all drugs are addictive in the same way and they don’t all do the same thing.
 
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laced on a joint or something?
This actually happened to me once in high school. It was my first time ever dealing with nose clams too.

For senior prom, I decided to skip the school dance and instead convinced my parents to spend the night at a casino in Biloxi
and let me use the house to throw the after party, with the caveat that no one leaves the party after arriving. Even had my mom buy all the booze for the party!
Way better use of my money than a limo and suit rental. haha

Ended up on my front porch at like 5am watching the sun come up and smoking a blunt with a guy who I had never met before who
was definitely like 15 years too old for high school. I noticed I was feeling a bit weird and asked him if the blunt was some super skunk or some shit
and he said "Nah bruh that's a bazooka."

I just nodded like I knew and turned to my friend and was like "What the fuck does that mean" and his response
was "oh shit I'm pretty sure that means it's fucking laced."

That was quite a morning.
 
I don't really do drugs either (except alcohol, red red wiiinee stay close to meee). But I've had cocaine once or twice. Though together with my wife, I wouldn't do it at some party I went to alone, but maybe that was the lapse in judgement. It's a very boring drug really. Much less eventful than something like weed, so I don't really understand why the latter is called a softdrug while the former is a hard drug. The only real problem and why I wouldn't do it ever again (except that snorting is unpleasant and as said for nothing really interesting) is all the crime associated with getting it to me.
 
Disregarding the 'coke is no worse than alcohol' bit which will lead to a very different discussion, the dangers of alcohol addiction and abuse are very serious. Saying so isn't preachy. Read below.
It's extremely preachy to go "You don't do drugs but you tried drugs one time? Wow, I don't believe it. OP you should be worried for your wife." which many in this thread are doing.
 
That's not how you help people. Compassion and understanding helps, shame and judgement do not. If you hate drugs and want people to listen to your call for help, your first step needs to be to shelve the judgement. That helps nobody.
I am not adressing addicts here. If I were, my stance would be completely different. I am adressing kids or adults who may be tempted to try drugs because they are common in their circle or because of peer pressure. Don't fucking do it.
 
That is, UNLESS THEY DIE!!!!!!
I mean sure. Its definitely risky these days with it being cut with god knows what. Plus fentanyl aint no joke and idiots be putting it in a lot of stuff nowadays. But then everyone at the party doing it would die.

Anecdotally I knew one person that died from a coke overdose. I know 4 that died from the liquor.
 

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I don't really do drugs either (except alcohol, red red wiiinee stay close to meee). But I've had cocaine once or twice. Though together with my wife, I wouldn't do it at some party I went to alone, but maybe that was the lapse in judgement. It's a very boring drug really. Much less eventful than something like weed, so I don't really understand why the latter is called a softdrug while the former is a hard drug. The only real problem and why I wouldn't do it ever again (except that snorting is unpleasant and as said for nothing really interesting) is all the crime associated with getting it to me.
I would say weed is a soft drug while coke is a hard drug because weed doesn't form a chemical dependency. You don't have literal, physical withdrawal symptoms with weed. It's also something that is, essentially, impossible to overdose on. Comparatively, cocaine is the exact opposite. It does form chemical dependency, you do go through withdrawal, and you can kill yourself from overdose.
 
Do you drink pop or consume food or drinks with caffeine in them? If so, do you consider it a manageable drug with minimal side effects?




I don’t mean it as a gotcha. What I’m trying to say and what you might want to consider is that these issues require a nuanced, reasoned look at the facts that let us take a step back from our immediate cultural context. Caffeine is a drug like any other but our culture accepts it as okay, and even readily hands it out to children.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, marijuana was legalized and will be sold by government-owned agencies where I live (Canada). At the same time, I have seen alcohol destroy (or kill) far more people than marijuana and I wish alcohol was more tightly regulated or more expensive to help mitigate its use.

You can have a can of Coke every now and then, you can have a joint once a year, you can drink once a month. Some people shouldn’t do any of those things. Some people can, or can tolerate more without suffering detrimental effects. Not all drugs are addictive in the same way and they don’t all do the same thing.
Of course there are also health benefits to caffeine (it's an antioxidant), drinking coffee has been linked to lower mortality rates and in general drinking is healthy (we need it to survive after all), whereas there's nothing good about smoking or snorting.
 
Well Im just a swede, while you can find cocaine at partys around here also - Im still amazed that trying cocaine seems like it's something common. But I don't know the drug culture in the states and or effects of using cocaine, If it's highly addicted or not.

But hey OP, hope she passes the test though!
 

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Of course there are also health benefits to caffeine (it's an antioxidant), drinking coffee has been linked to lower mortality rates and in general drinking is healthy (we need it to survive after all), whereas there's nothing good about smoking or snorting.
Smoking tobacco is a natural laxative, and is sometimes actually recommended to people with IBD. There are usually complex pros and cons of every sort of chemical reaction in the body.

I would still say that caffeine, overall, is a terrible substance to consume. It's really not a great drug at all, and we take in way, way too much of it.
 
marijuana is now legal in many places, I guess that's now OK by you seeing as it's legal?
I imagine they change their mind as to whether it's ok depending on where they are. Anything else would be inconsistent with that worldview.
I am against any form of substance abuse, legal or not. Much more so for illegal substances.

It's extremely preachy to go "You don't do drugs but you tried drugs one time? Wow, I don't believe it. OP you should be worried for your wife." which many in this thread are doing.
I don't care. I'd rather try and let a person know that snorting a few lines of coke isn't a simple lapse in judgement and potentially help them avoid a destructive habit than worry about being considered preachy by people on the internet. Whatever your judgement is about my stance, I accept it.
 
This is crazy to me. I see weed, alcohol, and ecstasy on occasion. And people generally don't share ecstasy with just anybody.
The world is big and cultures different.

I don't care. I'd rather try and let a person know that snorting a few lines of coke isn't a simple lapse in judgement and potentially help them avoid a destructive habit than worry about being considered preachy by people on the internet. Whatever your judgement is about my stance, I accept it.
Who died an made you the supreme leader? It's relative, your obviously sheltered life is a testament to that
 
I don't care. I'd rather try and let a person know that snorting a few lines of coke isn't a simple lapse in judgement and potentially help them avoid a destructive habit than worry about being considered preachy by people on the internet. Whatever your judgement is about my stance, I accept it.
Do you do the same any time anyone mentions they drink alcohol though? Because if not that’s where the disconnect lies and I’m not sure where it comes from. If you do then you’re peachy to the point of annoyance.
 

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I don't care. I'd rather try and let a person know that snorting a few lines of coke isn't a simple lapse in judgement and potentially help them avoid a destructive habit than worry about being considered preachy by people on the internet. Whatever your judgement is about my stance, I accept it.
Can you honestly think of any other topic you've ever encountered in your life where nuance and understanding weren't conducive to better results? No? Then why should you approach something as grave as drug abuse with anything less?
 
I am against any form of substance abuse, legal or not. Much more so for illegal substances.



I don't care. I'd rather try and let a person know that snorting a few lines of coke isn't a simple lapse in judgement and potentially help them avoid a destructive habit than worry about being considered preachy by people on the internet. Whatever your judgement is about my stance, I accept it.
what if she passes the drug test
 
I like cocaine. The trick is to be able to do it sporadically. It's addictive because it's a lot of fun. I have friends that will bring it out a couple of times a year. It sounds worse than it is, largely from movies about Mexican cartels and the fact that you could die under the perfect storm of wrong conditions. It's perfectly fine to do a couple lines at a party. You'll have a slightly worse hangover in the morning and your sinuses will be jacked. You'll probably talk too much as well. Other than that, you'll be fine in a day and can pass a drug test in 3.
 
I can see how it might be a party thing in certain places, but I'd still say a couple lines is more than a lapse in judgement. In any case, I wouldn't do something like coke simply out of the horrendous damage it has done to so many people, entire countries, and this irresponsible party culture is partly to blame for that. It doesn't really matter if you bought it or not, it shouldn't be something people should accept.
 
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